Request: melb.general

[lukew]

Any chance of bringing on melb.general for the Mexicans?

There may be other city-specific groups of interest to others as well.

Thanks,
Luke

[PT_Richard]

Hi,

Is that its exact name ???

Richard

[lukew]

Hi Richard.

Yes, that's it to the letter.

Luke

[PT_Richard]

Hi,

Added melb.general.... lets hope its in the feed.

Richard

[jeremy]

Hey Luke,

Think I've seen you in melb.general? *grin*

Jeremy

[lukew]

Hi Jeremy.

Well of course. I'm not the type just to lurk. I take it you're Jeremy Lunn?

Cheers,
Luke

[jeremy]

Yep that's me. Just switched over to Swiftel today! :)

[lukew]

Originally posted by jeremy
Yep that's me. Just switched over to Swiftel today! :)

Welcome aboard. I've only been with Swift for a bit over a month, but I'm pretty happy. Hey, when I signed up, the download limit for my plan was 8Gb, and it's already been raised to 12Gb. And I rarely go above 1.5Gb anyway!

All we need to do is persuade 'em to get melb.general in their newsfeed. Anybody getting this? <g>

Luke

[jeremy]

Yeah wouldn't say I use more than about 1.5gb myself, except with other people in the house we use about 3gig all up.

Looks like I'm getting melh.general in the list but it only comes up with one message (perhaps it takes a while for the feed to start sending posts for the group?):

Path: news.syd.swiftdsl.com.au!218.214.224.7.MISMATCH!ne ws.syd.swiftdsl.com.au!n
From: "ADMIN" <newsadmin@swiftel.com.au>
Newsgroups: melb.general
Subject: TEST
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:23:43 +1100
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106
Lines: 3
Message-ID: <3fb9e341$0$4331$61ce578d@news.syd.swiftdsl.com.au>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 218.214.XXX.XXX
X-Trace: 1069146945 news.syd.swiftdsl.com.au 4331 218.214.XXX.XXX
Xref: news.syd.swiftdsl.com.au melb.general:1

TEST

[PT_Richard]

Hi,

Hmmm it dissapeared... I look into this...

http://melb.news-admin.org/groupinfo.cgi/melb.general/

Richard

[PT_Richard]

Hi,

Okay a few have come in, i realise they are RE's !

I getting close to sprint culling out feed as discussed in another thread.

[]$ cat drincoming.log | grep "melb.general"
2003-11-20 10:26:01.811 218.214.224.7 + <3fbbfbec$0$4422$61ce578d@news.syd.swiftdsl.com.au> melb.general:2
2003-11-20 11:40:51.101 218.214.224.7 + <3fbc0c75@news.comindico.com.au> melb.general:3
2003-11-20 15:41:05.286 218.214.224.7 + <XwXub.18468$aT.17020@news-server.bigpond.net.au> melb.general:4

Richard

[jeremy]

It seems that the only posts to come into melb.general so far are crossposts!

There's a lot more traffic in melb.general than what is showing up. :eek:

[PT_Richard]

Dear Jeremy,

Okay thanx for that feed back, I will look into this.

Richard

[jeremy]

Any news on this? Am starting to miss my melb.general newsgroup and those crossposts tend not to be anything worth reading.

Thanks,

Jeremy

[PT_Richard]

Jeremy,

I chased it today, 72 hr turnaround with the Sprint News Feed admins...

## EDIT ##

Still waiting...

[root@barney log]# cat drincoming.log | grep melb.general
2003-11-20 10:26:01.811 218.214.224.7 + <3fbbfbec$0$4422$61ce578d@news.syd.swiftdsl.com.au> melb.general:2
2003-11-20 11:40:51.101 218.214.224.7 + <3fbc0c75@news.comindico.com.au> melb.general:3
2003-11-20 15:41:05.286 218.214.224.7 + <XwXub.18468$aT.17020@news-server.bigpond.net.au> melb.general:4
2003-11-20 18:16:47.736 218.214.224.7 + <5f3927ef.0311192015.637131b1@posting.google.com> melb.general:5
2003-11-20 18:41:03.068 218.214.224.7 + <3FBD7A80.6050400@hotmail.com> melb.general:6
2003-11-20 22:55:54.152 218.214.224.7 + <3fbcabbe$0$4423$61ce578d@news.syd.swiftdsl.com.au> melb.general:7
2003-11-20 22:56:02.157 218.214.224.7 + <3fbc8257$0$1725$5a62ac22@freenews.iinet.net.au> melb.general:8
2003-11-23 06:16:32.457 218.214.224.7 + <4advrvovd6j9e09f8srcu4bs5u12cge197@4ax.com> melb.general:9
2003-11-23 23:55:46.339 218.214.224.7 + <3fc0721d$0$13498$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> melb.general:10
2003-11-24 15:29:06.965 218.214.224.7 + <VKfwb.24492$aT.10088@news-server.bigpond.net.au> melb.general:11
2003-11-24 19:34:12.847 218.214.224.7 + <0vespb.aqo.ln@192.168.1.2> melb.general:12
2003-11-25 08:49:45.386 218.214.224.7 + <nZuwb.25749$aT.15655@news-server.bigpond.net.au> melb.general:13
2003-11-25 09:20:54.154 218.214.224.7 + <3fc2836a$0$14031$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> melb.general:14
2003-11-25 10:27:58.028 218.214.224.7 + <5pwwb.25844$aT.17537@news-server.bigpond.net.au> melb.general:15
2003-11-25 11:48:13.170 218.214.224.7 + <hBxwb.25926$aT.11893@news-server.bigpond.net.au> melb.general:16
2003-11-25 19:25:51.580 218.214.224.7 + <7iEwb.9540$ws.854074@news02.tsnz.net> melb.general:17
2003-11-25 20:10:53.973 218.214.224.7 + <3fc31b4e$0$14048$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> melb.general:18
2003-11-25 23:35:45.879 218.214.224.7 + <3fc2f7ed$0$13591$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> melb.general:19
2003-11-26 00:22:25.757 218.214.224.7 + <qXCwb.26185$aT.17663@news-server.bigpond.net.au> melb.general:20

Richard

[jeremy]

Originally posted by DSL_ENG

I chased it today, 72 hr turnaround with the Sprint News Feed admins...


Anymore on this? I suspect those 72hr would be up by now (or at least by Monday).

[jeremy]

Just wondering if this had been forgotten about because of the other issue where the entire feed was lost. Still no melb.general getting through. :(

[PT_Richard]

Hi Jeremy.

One thing at a time, now that I have a direct contact with Sprint news team I can work more things out. They haven't been the easyest to talk to.

I certainly haven't forgotten about:

melb.general
aus.audio-visual.home-cinema
aus.tv.digital

Regards,

Richard

[Reiner]

Originally posted by DSL_ENG
They haven't been the easyest to talk to.

Are they American? 'nuff siad.

PS. Also please add alt.binaries.pictures.birds (unfortunately not many ISPs carry this group). I just posted some pictures of wattlebird chicks to alt.binaries.pictures.animals but every time I post bird pictures there someone requests them posted in the other group too. (It might also be alt.binaries.pictures.animals.birds)

[PT_Richard]

Hi,

Looks like we are loosing melb.general because Sprint do not directly peer with anyone in Australia, some where along the server hops the groups are being filtered and we are catching only cross postings.

They have admitted to this and you can see it from many of the Path's


Path: news.syd.swiftdsl.com.au!203.222.32.131.MISMATCH!n ews-syd!news-peer-asia!newsfeed1.dti.ad.jp!newsfeed2.dti.ad.jp!newsf eed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!news1.optus.net.au!optus!newsfeeder.syd.op tusnet.com.au!news.optusnet.com.au!newsfeed.pacifi c.net.au!nasal.pacific.net.au!not-for-mail
Xref: news.syd.swiftdsl.com.au aus.tv.pay:1191 aus.tv.digital:100


I will see if I can convince them to peer or we will try get another feed.

Richard

[jeremy]

Originally posted by DSL_ENG

I will see if I can convince them to peer or we will try get another feed.


Thanks Richard. Is it possible for Swiftel to peer with a number of upstreams? Maybe it'd also be a way for ensuring articles don't go astray (I think loop control would prevent having to retrieve duplicates?).

[PT_Richard]

Looking into is now...


Interesting Ref that Optus don't carry Melb.general.

http://netserve.anu.edu.au/systems/news/

Richard

[jeremy]

Originally posted by DSL_ENG

Interesting Ref that Optus don't carry Melb.general.

http://netserve.anu.edu.au/systems/news/


I don't see where it actually says that, though when I was on Optus@Home/Net Cable they always carried melb.general. That leaves the question as to whether their wholesale feed is separate but I doubt it.

[PT_Richard]

Hi,

yes it does say:

The news hierarchies accepted from the Optus feed are limited to...

#edit# Id say just for theirs..

I was mainly looking at news-caching server feeds, Dnews...

Richard

[jeremy]

Yeah but is that just for their feed or all feeds?

[jeremy]

Any news on the new feed? Looks like this sprint one is totally crap. Richard are you still with Swiftel, though still on holidays?

[PT_Richard]

Hi,

Back today, chasing telstra...

Richard

[jeremy]

Ahh cool, thanks Richard. Keep us posted! :D

[PT_Richard]

Yes Telstra is on a trial aus.* as of 6pm last night...

[root@barney dbin]# ./dfeedinfo -i telstra-in
INFEED telstra-in secs=82835 con=12 off=2922 rec=2771 acc=2771 ref=151 rej=0 recbytes=6.513M accbytes=6.513M rejbytes=0
INFEED TOTAL secs=82835 con=12 off=2922 rec=2771 acc=2771 ref=151 rej=0 recbytes=6.513M accbytes=6.513M rejbytes=0

[jeremy]

Originally posted by DSL_ENG
Yes Telstra is on a trial aus.* as of 6pm last night...


Does that include melb.general then?

Thanks,

Jeremy

[jeremy]

Oh well guess not since it appears that we're still not getting melb.general posts.

[PT_Richard]

Currently we have a partial feed from telstra... so I have to request group additions..

"
the group melb.general has been added to your subscription and will be fed through after 1800 AEST today.
"

Richard

[sheol]

Thanks for persisting with this DSL_Eng :)

[PT_Richard]

We now have a filtered Waix news feed and a telstra aus.* and melb.general feed, posts will go out via the waix feed.

Richard

[jeremy]

Thanks Richard, melb.general seems to be fine now.

Jeremy

[PT_Richard]

Great, Ill have the sprint feed killed this week.

Richard